Potential closure of the forum by the government

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DDRM
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Potential closure of the forum by the government

Post by DDRM »

Hi Folks,

I don't know if you see it when you log in to the forum, but I'm getting a terrible warning that the forum will have to be closed because the owner does not have control. I've emailed Richard about this, to see how or if he wishes to resolve it, but I have not heard back from him. Without his action there is nothing I do: he IS the owner, and if he chooses to be absent I can't do anything about that.

Please be aware that the forum may suddenly disappear! Kendall's freeforums forum will presumably be OK, since he owns that and is still available for it. I don't know about the groups.io group - as far as I understand Richard has absented himself from that as well, though since it isn't based in the UK it may not be a problem. I guess Richard's Facebook page will continue to operate, or you could approach Richard directly for support.

Best wishes,

D

MattC
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Re: Potential closure of the forum by the government

Post by MattC »

Hi DDRM,

Yes, I just noticed that today. It's quite concerning that all this valuable information contained here might suddenly disappear. I'm not a major contributor to the site and I often spend months not doing anything with BB4W, but it will be frustrating not to be able to find answers on here. Wiki seems fine, but it doesn't cover everything. I don't know what 'Kendall's freeforums' is, and I'm not on Facebook. I had noticed an absence of Richard's comments - I just hope he's OK.

Matt

DDRM
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Re: Potential closure of the forum by the government

Post by DDRM »

You can find Kendall's forum here:

https://bbcbasic.freeforums.net/

I agree about the risk of losing the content here. I have made a backup, but as far as I know there's no way of exporting it! It would be possible to run a webscraper over the site, if someone has the expertise (come on, you are all programmers, write one! :D ), but I'm not sure what you could legally do with it. I imagine it would be OK to keep it for personal use, but not to post it to another forum.

Best wishes,

D

MattC
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Re: Potential closure of the forum by the government

Post by MattC »

Are you able to view your back up as normal and offline? If so, do you have to be a MOD to do this or can anyone make a copy?

Matt

DDRM
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Re: Potential closure of the forum by the government

Post by DDRM »

No, it just stashes a backup somewhere on the server, to restore from - as far as I know there's no way to extract it (there used to be, but it got removed - or maybe I'm remembering the previous forum...).

D

DDRM
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Re: Potential closure of the forum by the government

Post by DDRM »

I could add that there is a forum at groups.io:

https://groups.io/g/bb4w/topics

I think you have to be a member to contribute and see files, but then you can also post files to a repository, which is a valuable extra.

Best wishes,

D

KenDown
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Re: Potential closure of the forum by the government

Post by KenDown »

Yes, my version of this forum, created when there was a previous "scare", is still up and running. While the warning message is quite correct in stating that website owners must assume responsibility for whatever is posted, it is incorrect in saying that Richard cannot view what is on this present forum and the decision to remove himself from control was his and his alone and, so far as I understand it, can be reversed at any time.

My version of the site will not have those advantages as far as Richard is concerned.

I view the implementation of the new law with equanimity. So far I have not noticed any rush to post child porn or anti-vaxxer sentiment on BB4W websites.

Although I have not been able to import all the valuable posts from here, I am sure that once people start to use it my version will become equally valuable if this one closes.

Pete
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Re: Potential closure of the forum by the government

Post by Pete »

I think if this forum is closed it will be a shame and frankly, I don't think anyone is going to do online harm here.

I agree with KenDown, and thanks for information about alternate forum if the forum does close.

MattC
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Re: Potential closure of the forum by the government

Post by MattC »

Hi KenDown,

I had a brief look at your site and could only read a single general post. Do you need to be logged in to view others?

Matt

KenDown
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Re: Potential closure of the forum by the government

Post by KenDown »

That is because there probably is only one single post! The site was set up because once before Richard threatened to close the forum. However when I set mine up he suddenly discovered that the forum could remain open after all. I hope that something similar happens again - I don't really see myself as competition for Richard - but if this forum should close, then mine will be there and I can hope for an increase in posts.